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板主: HN8597
kmb_68x :Guten Tag Matthias,
You have mentioned the protoytpe double-deckers built by Mercedes and Neoplan,
but I couldn't find any sort of information about them on the internet.
Can you tell me more about them?
魔法先生 Super Bus :I usually like UK buses a lot, but I would say I mostly interesting on the European buses as well,
and now see Germany also has so many vintage buse have been preserved like UK does,
but sadly almost all buses which service in Hong Kong are not that lucky as they are mostly
have to be retired after 17-18 years of service and either been scrapped or for some of them,
if they are lucky, maybe shipped to the other country to continue their rest of their life,
it's impossible to preserved the retired buses in HK especially now the law regulation and the place concern.
for the old buses, I mostly interesting the old MAN buses, especially SD200 double-decker and SL200,
some SD200 also can be found in Mainland China as the second-hand buses,
Citaro by Mercedes-Benz also are my favorite, as you can see them service in UK,
as well now in Singapore, I mostly like O530G "bendy bus" in London but unfortunately they all gone in December 2011,
as Boris, the current mayor in London doesn't like to see Germany buses service in London,
instead to design the other new bus for Londoner.
Naphthalene :Hi, I would like to know your comment on the 2-speed Voith gearbox on the MAN SD200 and also the even earlier Bussing examples, because as a Hongkonger, the earliest examples of Voith gearboxes I encountered are already the 3-speed DIWA8xx ones.
Berlin-Skyliner :魔法先生 Super Bus :I usually like UK buses a lot, but I would say I mostly interesting on the European buses as well,
and now see Germany also has so many vintage buse have been preserved like UK does,
but sadly almost all buses which service in Hong Kong are not that lucky as they are mostly
have to be retired after 17-18 years of service and either been scrapped or for some of them,
if they are lucky, maybe shipped to the other country to continue their rest of their life,
it's impossible to preserved the retired buses in HK especially now the law regulation and the place concern.
for the old buses, I mostly interesting the old MAN buses, especially SD200 double-decker and SL200,
some SD200 also can be found in Mainland China as the second-hand buses,
Citaro by Mercedes-Benz also are my favorite, as you can see them service in UK,
as well now in Singapore, I mostly like O530G "bendy bus" in London but unfortunately they all gone in December 2011,
as Boris, the current mayor in London doesn't like to see Germany buses service in London,
instead to design the other new bus for Londoner.
Hi,
the most preserved vintage buses in Germany are saved by groups of enthusiasts. 20 years ago, BVG had a big and great collection of old buses, subways and tramways at Britz depot. Then the collection was disbanded. Something of the vehicles went to museum, something went to two groups of enthusiasts and some others were going with the wind. Here are two views to "Monumentenhalle", it's the depot of "Technikmuseum Berlin" (museum of transport and technology), first some buses...
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And Hong Kong has no vintage buses? [ 圖檔 ]
Do you have any informations about the SD200 in Mainland China? Are they still in service? On web I found some pictures of this buses, -> here you can see surrender of them in Guangzhou.
Since some years, in Berlin we have some bendys too, but I don't like them, because they haven't enough seats and they are simply to long for the streets of a big city. This cars are complete unpracticable and just terrible. I'm very happy that these buses have exited london. Here is one exemplar of O530G wich was stuck in snow...
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BVG 4066, Berlin-Neukölln (Flughafenstr.), 2010
...and here are two videos from that action...
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Bye,
Matthias [ 圖檔 ]
魔法先生 Super Bus :Hong Kong do have preserved vintage buses, but just in limited number,
for example the KMB's first double-decker bus in Hong Kong -- Daimler CVG5, or called "Daimler A" type in KMB,
the first successful air-conditioned double-decker bus in HK --Leyland Olympian 11m,
there are also some other vintage buses have been preserved by private personal,
like Mercedes-Benz O305 double-decker bus of KMB, but just only in small amount compare with like UK, and Germany as well.
not just only because it's hard to maintain and the place concern,
it's not easy to find a place to keep these big buses in Hong Kong such a small place,
the regulation of Transport department of HK government also is the problem,
and now the policy of the bus companies in Hong Kong, all the buses once retired,
they will sold to the other company, either to scarp them all or ship to oversea,
and not allowed to run in HK again, all of these make people to buy them to keep and preserve become more impossible and more difficult.
And for those MAN double-deckers in Mainland China, I haven't been there for a long time,
but all I know is they all are retired at long time ago, as well for those second-hand Daimler Fleetline buses which from Hong Kong,
Also retired for a long time.
Berlin-Skyliner :Do you have any informations about the SD200 in Mainland China? Are they still in service? On web I found some pictures of this buses, -> here you can see surrender of them in Guangzhou.
魔法先生 Super Bus :Hong Kong do have preserved vintage buses, but just in limited number
魔法先生 Super Bus :there are also some other vintage buses have been preserved by private personal,
like Mercedes-Benz O305 double-decker bus of KMB
魔法先生 Super Bus :not just only because it's hard to maintain and the place concern,
it's not easy to find a place to keep these big buses in Hong Kong such a small place,
魔法先生 Super Bus :the regulation of Transport department of HK government also is the problem,
and now the policy of the bus companies in Hong Kong, all the buses once retired,
they will sold to the other company, either to scarp them all or ship to oversea,
and not allowed to run in HK again, all of these make people to buy them to keep and preserve become more impossible and more difficult.
魔法先生 Super Bus :And for those MAN double-deckers in Mainland China, I haven't been there for a long time,
but all I know is they all are retired at long time ago, as well for those second-hand Daimler Fleetline buses which from Hong Kong,
Also retired for a long time.
青山居士 :Those MAN SD200 were probably withdrwan in year 2000.
Berlin-Skyliner :I see. But I think that's normal. How many vintage buses are kept in Hong Kong as a whole?魔法先生 Super Bus :Is this the bus, wich was in Sydney?
Berlin-Skyliner :Does anybody know what became of them? Were they scrapped or are they still in service anywhere else? Maybe some of them were sold to other areas in Mainland China...
Are there new Chinese double deckers in Guangzhou now?
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