miklcct :

eric2316 :

miklcct :如果西鐵好似東鐵咁起，大部分車站喺正市中心，咪唔會咁少人搭囉。又或者好似當年改荔景站咁將美孚站改做對面轉車（技術唔得咪改過另一個囉，或者上下層轉車都得喇啩，行成5分鐘先轉到車，巴士都飛咗5公里啦），咁吸引力咪大增囉。

東鐵除咗邊境車站、太和站、馬場站、火炭站同九龍塘站之外，個個車站都幾乎喺正市中心；西鐵只有屯門站、朗屏站（好勉強）同九龍南線三個車站喺市中心，多人極有限。

機場快線衰係收太貴。如果減價至東涌站嘅兩倍，相信會有大量搭開A車的遊客改搭機鐵。

我想問2個問題

1.屯門,元朗,天水圍市中心正確位置係邊?
2.朗屏好勉強都可以叫做市中心?
3.就算俾你搵到正確市中心位置,唔一定有位置起係地面起高架橋?咁要改鑽地,但屯門,元朗,天水圍市中心係咪要避樓鑽地?好似有大量樓宇已經落成多年

最認同係你講機鐵收得太貴,平D都會多D人搭

屯門市中心喺屯門站東南面，元朗市中心即係元朗大馬路（輕鐵豐年路站至大棠路站之間），天水圍市中心喺嘉湖銀座附近。朗屏站有條唔算太長嘅天橋可以去到元朗（西）巴總，嗰頭已經可以叫做市中心。

不如你諗下點解東鐵當年可以直插市中心啦。好簡單，西鐵提早25年起，同新市鎮、地鐵一齊起，就可以直插所有市中心。所以咪就係當年港英政府無能囉，諗住一條屯門公路，4條巴士線可以搞掂晒全個屯門元朗（我睇過文件，當年政府諗住全屯門用4條線出市區，當中一條良景，一條屯碼，兩條元朗開），結果4條線變成十幾條線，屯門公路日日塞囉，咪要起西鐵補鑊囉。好啦，搞得嚟全屯門元朗已經係高樓大廈啦，重點起？得嘅。沿河囉。咪即係今日嘅西鐵囉。

當年屯門新市鎮個Ideal case係大部分居民都唔需要出市區返工返學
而係係番屯門內面自給自足喎，要咁多市區路線做乜？
仲有西鐵個Plan係屯門公路冧石之後先順應民意拉落屯門公園喎大佬

miklcct :如果西鐵好似東鐵咁起，大部分車站喺正市中心，咪唔會咁少人搭囉。又或者好似當年改荔景站咁將美孚站改做對面轉車（技術唔得咪改過另一個囉，或者上下層轉車都得喇啩，行成5分鐘先轉到車，巴士都飛咗5公里啦），咁吸引力咪大增囉。

東鐵除咗邊境車站、太和站、馬場站、火炭站同九龍塘站之外，個個車站都幾乎喺正市中心；西鐵只有屯門站、朗屏站（好勉強）同九龍南線三個車站喺市中心，多人極有限。

機場快線衰係收太貴。如果減價至東涌站嘅兩倍，相信會有大量搭開A車的遊客改搭機鐵。

不見得大學站近市中心

1318 :

miklcct :如果西鐵好似東鐵咁起，大部分車站喺正市中心，咪唔會咁少人搭囉。又或者好似當年改荔景站咁將美孚站改做對面轉車（技術唔得咪改過另一個囉，或者上下層轉車都得喇啩，行成5分鐘先轉到車，巴士都飛咗5公里啦），咁吸引力咪大增囉。

東鐵除咗邊境車站、太和站、馬場站、火炭站同九龍塘站之外，個個車站都幾乎喺正市中心；西鐵只有屯門站、朗屏站（好勉強）同九龍南線三個車站喺市中心，多人極有限。

機場快線衰係收太貴。如果減價至東涌站嘅兩倍，相信會有大量搭開A車的遊客改搭機鐵。

不見得大學站近市中心

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四天王寺前夕陽ヶ丘駅 :

miklcct :

eric2316 :

miklcct :如果西鐵好似東鐵咁起，大部分車站喺正市中心，咪唔會咁少人搭囉。又或者好似當年改荔景站咁將美孚站改做對面轉車（技術唔得咪改過另一個囉，或者上下層轉車都得喇啩，行成5分鐘先轉到車，巴士都飛咗5公里啦），咁吸引力咪大增囉。

東鐵除咗邊境車站、太和站、馬場站、火炭站同九龍塘站之外，個個車站都幾乎喺正市中心；西鐵只有屯門站、朗屏站（好勉強）同九龍南線三個車站喺市中心，多人極有限。

機場快線衰係收太貴。如果減價至東涌站嘅兩倍，相信會有大量搭開A車的遊客改搭機鐵。

我想問2個問題

1.屯門,元朗,天水圍市中心正確位置係邊?
2.朗屏好勉強都可以叫做市中心?
3.就算俾你搵到正確市中心位置,唔一定有位置起係地面起高架橋?咁要改鑽地,但屯門,元朗,天水圍市中心係咪要避樓鑽地?好似有大量樓宇已經落成多年

最認同係你講機鐵收得太貴,平D都會多D人搭

屯門市中心喺屯門站東南面，元朗市中心即係元朗大馬路（輕鐵豐年路站至大棠路站之間），天水圍市中心喺嘉湖銀座附近。朗屏站有條唔算太長嘅天橋可以去到元朗（西）巴總，嗰頭已經可以叫做市中心。

不如你諗下點解東鐵當年可以直插市中心啦。好簡單，西鐵提早25年起，同新市鎮、地鐵一齊起，就可以直插所有市中心。所以咪就係當年港英政府無能囉，諗住一條屯門公路，4條巴士線可以搞掂晒全個屯門元朗（我睇過文件，當年政府諗住全屯門用4條線出市區，當中一條良景，一條屯碼，兩條元朗開），結果4條線變成十幾條線，屯門公路日日塞囉，咪要起西鐵補鑊囉。好啦，搞得嚟全屯門元朗已經係高樓大廈啦，重點起？得嘅。沿河囉。咪即係今日嘅西鐵囉。

當年屯門新市鎮個Ideal case係大部分居民都唔需要出市區返工返學
而係係番屯門內面自給自足喎，要咁多市區路線做乜？
仲有西鐵個Plan係屯門公路冧石之後先順應民意拉落屯門公園喎大佬

所以咪就話港英政府唔掂囉，諗住用工廠自給自足，又無諗到大陸競爭。當初西鐵個plan重衰，如果真係用天水圍市中心做總站，屯門就會好似而家嘅南區咁，成為全港18區唯二無重鐵嘅地區，日日出市區塞死屯門公路（香隧）。

miklcct :

eric2316 :

miklcct :如果西鐵好似東鐵咁起，大部分車站喺正市中心，咪唔會咁少人搭囉。又或者好似當年改荔景站咁將美孚站改做對面轉車（技術唔得咪改過另一個囉，或者上下層轉車都得喇啩，行成5分鐘先轉到車，巴士都飛咗5公里啦），咁吸引力咪大增囉。

東鐵除咗邊境車站、太和站、馬場站、火炭站同九龍塘站之外，個個車站都幾乎喺正市中心；西鐵只有屯門站、朗屏站（好勉強）同九龍南線三個車站喺市中心，多人極有限。

機場快線衰係收太貴。如果減價至東涌站嘅兩倍，相信會有大量搭開A車的遊客改搭機鐵。

我想問2個問題

1.屯門,元朗,天水圍市中心正確位置係邊?
2.朗屏好勉強都可以叫做市中心?
3.就算俾你搵到正確市中心位置,唔一定有位置起係地面起高架橋?咁要改鑽地,但屯門,元朗,天水圍市中心係咪要避樓鑽地?好似有大量樓宇已經落成多年

最認同係你講機鐵收得太貴,平D都會多D人搭

屯門市中心喺屯門站東南面，元朗市中心即係元朗大馬路（輕鐵豐年路站至大棠路站之間），天水圍市中心喺嘉湖銀座附近。朗屏站有條唔算太長嘅天橋可以去到元朗（西）巴總，嗰頭已經可以叫做市中心。

不如你諗下點解東鐵當年可以直插市中心啦。好簡單，西鐵提早25年起，同新市鎮、地鐵一齊起，就可以直插所有市中心。所以咪就係當年港英政府無能囉，諗住一條屯門公路，4條巴士線可以搞掂晒全個屯門元朗（我睇過文件，當年政府諗住全屯門用4條線出市區，當中一條良景，一條屯碼，兩條元朗開），結果4條線變成十幾條線，屯門公路日日塞囉，咪要起西鐵補鑊囉。好啦，搞得嚟全屯門元朗已經係高樓大廈啦，重點起？得嘅。沿河囉。咪即係今日嘅西鐵囉。

如果版友你咁講

嘉湖銀座叫市中心? 唔覺得個到似,得個巴士總站,仲要冇人~
元朗市中心係係豐年路至大棠路? 冇錯人多,好熱鬧,但點解得個個位置先叫市中心?由元朗警署到又新街叫市中心又得唔得呢?
屯門市中心係屯門站東南面? 個到有公園同埋要轉丁丁之外.....點講都唔似...

市中心個個人既定義不同? 中唔中心好難講.....

以下係對紅字感想
洗鬼諗咩,如果咁早起好,咪又咪又一段長長長長時間冇人搭,係市中心就一定有人用?咪會有人同樓主一樣出黎反對起西鐵,話到有需要個陣先起
其實樓主 你有冇試過跨區讀書,同做野? 車錢,時間,人工,全部都係錢!成人一日要$30內車錢,唔係少架!
25年前起好,香港冇咁多人,又冇咁多人住屯門元朗天水圍,個陣2點幾架車有幾多個人,樓主你講啦
睇過D文件又點,文件有冇講過25年間有幾多人會一定搬入去,一定會出番市區做野?
文件係死既,人係生,變通好緊要~
跟本太多野不能預計~

我相信西鐵綫各個車站的所在地，會於未來10至20年成為各區新的市中心。

miklcct :

HB 9238 :

西鐵線最多人的區間是錦上路 <-> 荃灣西

依段可來最多客 ? 唔該你坐多幾個站

你唔係想同我講話最多人嗰段係紅磡 <-> 尖東，或者係尖東 <-> 柯士甸呀嘛。

睇嚟你真係好似未坐過西鐵，事實上好多人紅磡上車、尖東就落車，隨時真係可以多人過錦上路 <-> 荃灣西。

1. No marks for you, there are a lot of empty seats on 970 and 23 during the non-peak hour, so they should be abolished also, according to your past theory

2. For East Rail Line stations...
Sheung Shui's city centre: Shek Wu Hui, which you need to walk a while from the station
Fanling city centre: Luen Wo Hui, not near at all
Tai Wo: the station was being built with the estate, and it was a mini-satillite city for Taipo, so not counted
Tai Po Centre: 1. Kwong Fuk Road and 2. Taipo Plaza, both aren't near at all
University: can be ignored
Fo Tan: industrial area
Shatin: The Shatin Centre and other malls and estates are being built WITH the station, so can't be counted also
Tai Wai: again, not too close from the main public housing estates



No wonder people saying that the new Year 1 are much less impressive than several years ago...sigh.

MB720 :1. No marks for you, there are a lot of empty seats on 970 and 23 during the non-peak hour, so they should be abolished also, according to your past theory

2. For East Rail Line stations...
Sheung Shui's city centre: Shek Wu Hui, which you need to walk a while from the station
Fanling city centre: Luen Wo Hui, not near at all
Tai Wo: the station was being built with the estate, and it was a mini-satillite city for Taipo, so not counted
Tai Po Centre: 1. Kwong Fuk Road and 2. Taipo Plaza, both aren't near at all
University: can be ignored
Fo Tan: industrial area
Shatin: The Shatin Centre and other malls and estates are being built WITH the station, so can't be counted also
Tai Wai: again, not too close from the main public housing estates



No wonder people saying that the new Year 1 are much less impressive than several years ago...sigh.

The chance for a 970 bus getting completely full, skipping Western Harbour Tunnel Toll Plaza during non-peak hour is not low. Even if the bus does not skip that stop, allowing us to get on, the chance of getting an empty seat is very low.

ATS123 :

miklcct :

HB 9238 :

西鐵線最多人的區間是錦上路 <-> 荃灣西

依段可來最多客 ? 唔該你坐多幾個站

你唔係想同我講話最多人嗰段係紅磡 <-> 尖東，或者係尖東 <-> 柯士甸呀嘛。

睇嚟你真係好似未坐過西鐵，事實上好多人紅磡上車、尖東就落車，隨時真係可以多人過錦上路 <-> 荃灣西。

日日都應該有99%

印象中錦上路有企滿人等車出南昌,係西鐵唔知發生咩事,要人搭下一班車

miklcct :The chance for a 970 bus getting completely full, skipping Western Harbour Tunnel Toll Plaza during non-peak hour is not low. Even if the bus does not skip that stop, allowing us to get on, the chance of getting an empty seat is very low.

During your definition of "business but not rush hour", it's not difficult to get a seat in the Water Street stop, the last stop before crossing the Tunnel, and so do riding from the Kowloon side, especually from 10am to 12noon, and from 2pm to 3pm. Open your eyes and have a look.

MB720 :

miklcct :The chance for a 970 bus getting completely full, skipping Western Harbour Tunnel Toll Plaza during non-peak hour is not low. Even if the bus does not skip that stop, allowing us to get on, the chance of getting an empty seat is very low.

During your definition of "business but not rush hour", it's not difficult to get a seat in the Water Street stop, the last stop before crossing the Tunnel, and so do riding from the Kowloon side, especually from 10am to 12noon, and from 2pm to 3pm. Open your eyes and have a look.

Did you observe this during regular teaching days of HKU or non-teaching days? The results would be very different since about half of the passengers in a full 970 bus alight at HKU.

miklcct :Did you observe this during regular teaching days of HKU or non-teaching days? The results would be very different since about half of the passengers in a full 970 bus alight at HKU.

Oh you are adding additional requirements to justify your statement now? Is that being allowed by your Drs and Profs to add additional restrictions to the marking schemes AFTER the examination?
If not, would you mind to tell us all of your additional requirements before having any further discussion, or just tell us that 970 must be correct in every discussion?

miklcct :

MB720 :

miklcct :The chance for a 970 bus getting completely full, skipping Western Harbour Tunnel Toll Plaza during non-peak hour is not low. Even if the bus does not skip that stop, allowing us to get on, the chance of getting an empty seat is very low.

During your definition of "business but not rush hour", it's not difficult to get a seat in the Water Street stop, the last stop before crossing the Tunnel, and so do riding from the Kowloon side, especually from 10am to 12noon, and from 2pm to 3pm. Open your eyes and have a look.

Did you observe this during regular teaching days of HKU or non-teaching days? The results would be very different since about half of the passengers in a full 970 bus alight at HKU.

Let's discuss this again after the West Island Line is opened.

miklcct :日光日白之下，列車行走荃灣西去錦上路，竟然可以只係僅僅坐滿座位？！唔係少人成咁呀嘛？已經成6分鐘先一班車嘅啦。
……

日日非繁時搭西鐵綫的我表示見怪不怪。