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新色上 350 真心係靚，
可惜配落 77W 真係 ……

至於 cabin 入面個設計都尚可，係個商務艙差咁 d ……

有機會我都想試下感受下呢架新機，可惜我應該未有咁快可以試坐到因航 A350 ……

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同感。
以前聽過同事話係跟A350 design隻新色，所以特別夾 XD

個人認為只要佢唔再攪Shell seat 就ok. J Class中規中舉啦，都expect 佢當之前個regional refurb咁攪。比起廿幾年前冇cubical, 我呢啲中坑已經好滿意!

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rickybus on 2016年6月12日 15:18:37:同感。
以前聽過同事話係跟A350 design隻新色，所以特別夾 XD

個人認為只要佢唔再攪Shell seat 就ok. J Class中規中舉啦，都expect 佢當之前個regional refurb咁攪。比起廿幾年前冇cubical, 我呢啲中坑已經好滿意!

我只係唔鐘意 J 位個配色而已，一有白色就 ……
望下人地 MU（77W）、CI （77W、359）搞成點就已經知 CX 個品味有幾差。

啦，我始終認為 Shell Seat 係有可取 o既地方，
當前面條友無啦啦向後 o既時候搞到自己冇哂位，就明白 Shell Seat o既好處，
而 CX 個 Shell seat 最大問題係個 leg room 唔夠闊加個位太薄，如果針對呢兩點改善下又未必唔好。*

* 前者 Leg room 個問題，
以前 CX 未換位 o既時候，343、744、77W，甚至而家長途線產品換左之後轉左去 regional 用 shell seat o既 773 我都坐過。明顯地而家 773 用 shell seat o既 leg room 係比以前起 long haul flight 上闊左（compare 343 甚加高低立見），係有一定程度 o既改善。而事實上我又覺得起 regional 用 shell seat 又唔係真係咁差，始終 regional 都係坐幾個鐘，有 AVOD + 獨立插頭已經算好好。唯獨都係個位太薄，如果佢整到好似而家個位咁其實應該係一個幾好 o既 design。

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senior 真係唔同啲~
You've just pinpointed all the advantages shell seats given.
其實如果佢肯做厚個cushions佢已經係另一個世界。

On legroom:
舊位legroom太迫丶新shellseats 確有可取之處。
記得未refurb前坐333, 772, 773, 744確實好逼 *sigh*
而家坐KT CX543唔逼不過硬得太緊要。AVOD同個人插我都appreciate, 不過seating comfort 我個人而言係覺得凌駕一切, haha.

On regional situation:
好難同意。shell seat 坐兩個鐘係極限。我覺得CX cut cost 都唔可以咁折磨班客。The price is not really coherent to the services. And mind you ticket prices of nearly all CX flights are generally higher than other carrier. OF COURSE, compare with BA or AA, it's staggeringly better than them. (Some say the idea of shell seats is for slimming off, but not certain whether is it the truth or not.)

其實講咁耐，thicker cushions is the future for the shell seat. Don't u think so as well?

配色未見有太大問題喎又，當然CI又係正到一個點。(personally prefer SIA Business Class, haha)

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rickybus on 2016年6月12日 21:15:36:senior 真係唔同啲~
You've just pinpointed all the advantages shell seats given.
其實如果佢肯做厚個cushions佢已經係另一個世界。

On legroom:
舊位legroom太迫丶新shellseats 確有可取之處。
記得未refurb前坐333, 772, 773, 744確實好逼 *sigh*
而家坐KT CX543唔逼不過硬得太緊要。AVOD同個人插我都appreciate, 不過seating comfort 我個人而言係覺得凌駕一切, haha.

On regional situation:
好難同意。shell seat 坐兩個鐘係極限。我覺得CX cut cost 都唔可以咁折磨班客。The price is not really coherent to the services. And mind you ticket prices of nearly all CX flights are generally higher than other carrier. OF COURSE, compare with BA or AA, it's staggeringly better than them. (Some say the idea of shell seats is for slimming off, but not certain whether is it the truth or not.)

其實講咁耐，thicker cushions is the future for the shell seat. Don't u think so as well?

配色未見有太大問題喎又，當然CI又係正到一個點。(personally prefer SIA Business Class, haha)

講緊錢 (generally higher than other carrier) - Well，而家 CX 搞 FanFare 其實已經貼近 LCC 個價 …… 當然要睇下你係唔係真係岩時間出票啦。

Thicker cushions is the future for the shell seat：
其實 Fixed shell 係好兩極 o既產品。

好簡單，走去 compare 下其實有整 Shell Seat o既 carrier - e.g. ANA - 就睇到究竟 CX 究竟衰乜。
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/asw_commo ... ?c=y-787_8

例如：
http://upgrd.com/pursuedadventures/trip ... o-nrt.html
內文咁講：

Here's my biggest gripe about the All Nippon Airways 787 hard product - the fixed shell seats. The economy class seats do not recline. Instead, the seat pan moves forward three inches to give you the illusion of recline. I hate this design because it just makes me feel as if I'm slouching forward and when the seat pan moves forward, it reduces your seat pitch. I end up having to use the pillow behind my lower back to provide some lumbar support. But on the positive side, when your neighbor up front reclines, he's not invading into your face either.

所以 cushions 厚只係其中一個原因，ANA 點睇都厚過 CX Shell Seat。但係最大問題就係，因為 Econ 位始終都係窄，而客人又貪心，一有得向後時就一定較到最後（比自己多返些小空間）。然而咁做，坐起佢後面個客就慘囉（呢個我試過唔小次，上次坐十幾個鐘，前面條鬼婆由一起飛之後冇耐就較到最後，搞到我連食野都冇位食。之後叫個空姐招呼下佢先有返多小位食下野。食完之後又係咁，之後我就不斷拎對腳踢佢佢先整返前小小 ）。所以我個人係幾鐘意 fix shell 個 concept。

呢個網就正正係欣賞當年 CX Fix sell 位 o既優點啦：
http://www.hopper.com/articles/2147/the ... lass-seats

Their fixed-back shell seats help give the impression of having more personal space, but if you need more legroom, Cathay Pacific makes it easy to book an exit row seat for a reasonable fee.

Overall 講 fix shell，最重要就係有兩個因素先可以比 majority o既人欣賞到佢 o既優點，缺一不可：Legroom + Cushions。同時都係因為前面個原因，Econ 想整個好 Fix shell 係好難，反之起 PEY 就唔同咁講。

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