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[RV2511]

N年前整落嘅牌終於用得着
唔知有幾多人已經唔記得OMSI有呢款車

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(9/5/2016 22:04 )P.S. Regarding to the bus, I was just been informed that there was a copyright issue with it, I apologize for any inconvenience or concerns that I may have caused.

[Volvo 5204]

Hello
In hong kong, reason may be due to difficult apply mm2, omsi big forums account. If someone do not have hong kong big forums account, they almost play nothing (hong kong city and car). This may be chicken and egg problem. If they can apply big forums account more easily, they no need 私傳. Maker is only a small number of people, player is a large number of people. Most of player may not give contribution to mm2 and omsi, but we should not remove their playing right. 作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. Although small number of players may do something to hurt the forum and the maker, but we should not deny most other players (even china player) to access the forum. (I am a hong kong player). I think that most maker may want more players can play their city or car, but difficult account application may cause contradiction. I know that making city or car is very difficult and time consumption, most maker make them not for money. Kowloon west maker allow their objects free to use, then kowloon east city and 962 crazy city can use kowloon west object. I hope other makers to follow this method to reduce copyright argument problem. Kowloon west maker this method can make 百花齊放.
In youtube, you can see many mm2 and omsi hong kong video, but you do not have big forums account. You can only see other one to play, but you cannot play mm2, omsi hong kong city and car.
In the world, other country mm2 and omsi forums only need registration, but in hong kong most forums, we need registration reason. If someone like discussion, they can discuss. If someone do not like discussion, they can played as cdrom. 作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. So download is the registration reason that should not be the problem. But in hong kong, if download is registrator reason, you must not registrate successfully. I hope mm2 and omsi 百花齊放.
Thanks for your opinion
衷心多謝每一位喺OMSI同MM2 界付出過嘅作者

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[MB452.PR6020(u#8199)]

又係呢啲 Maker 至上論。

我都係呢句，小弟跟 Winsome 呀 KT 呀 Naphthalene 兄佢地整左咁耐野，一次流出都未試過
（反而話要比真錢買 file 就試過，都唔知比咩反應 ）
咁到底係私傳問題上，作者一方係咪單純受害而無需反省呢？心知肚明

Hello
In hong kong, reason may be due to difficult apply mm2, omsi big forums account. If someone do not have hong kong big forums account, they almost play nothing (hong kong city and car). This may be chicken and egg problem. If they can apply big forums account more easily, they no need 私傳. Maker is only a small number of people, player is a large number of people. Most of player may not give contribution to mm2 and omsi, but we should not remove their playing right. 作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. Although small number of players may do something to hurt the forum and the maker, but we should not deny most other players (even china player) to access the forum. (I am a hong kong player). I think that most maker may want more players can play their city or car, but difficult account application may cause contradiction. I know that making city or car is very difficult and time consumption, most maker make them not for money. Kowloon west maker allow their objects free to use, then kowloon east city and 962 crazy city can use kowloon west object. I hope other makers to follow this method to reduce copyright argument problem. Kowloon west maker this method can make 百花齊放.
In youtube, you can see many mm2 and omsi hong kong video, but you do not have big forums account. You can only see other one to play, but you cannot play mm2, omsi hong kong city and car.
In the world, other country mm2 and omsi forums only need registration, but in hong kong most forums, we need registration reason. If someone like discussion, they can discuss. If someone do not like discussion, they can played as cdrom. 作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. So download is the registration reason that should not be the problem. But in hong kong, if download is registrator reason, you must not registrate successfully. I hope mm2 and omsi 百花齊放.
Thanks for your opinion
衷心多謝每一位喺OMSI同MM2 界付出過嘅作者

英文差，睇唔明你講咩。

[kmb71k(u#2569)]

其實唔止HKBF, 唔止香港人
我見外國整車整地圖, 未出街
一樣有人問部車出左未, 幾時出

用人地既車同Maker交換
我暫時未見過有Maker會如此心急問人要車玩
九成九整車既人識得咩叫尊重, 產權

呢個人連secret都未識串
講野仲1999
似係心智未成熟

[GN940(u#26173)]

又係呢啲 Maker 至上論。

我都係呢句，小弟跟 Winsome 呀 KT 呀 Naphthalene 兄佢地整左咁耐野，一次流出都未試過
（反而話要比真錢買 file 就試過，都唔知比咩反應 ）
咁到底係私傳問題上，作者一方係咪單純受害而無需反省呢？心知肚明

呢單嘢令我諗翻起幾年前mason rutty嗰單

Anyway唔單止巴迷圈呢種攤大手板爭試新嘢好威嘅風氣越嚟越嚴重之外，而家連maker自己都唔可以為自己嘅作品把關，自己怕咗人哋求檔炸佢message，抑或者個maker本身為咗啲咩不道德交易，甚至我聽過有maker純粹為咗自high博出位而私傳

我明maker「搵beta-tester」係佢哋嘅個人決定，但從來冇人諗過咁樣會做爛個市，好明顯係maker嘅心理質素有問題啦

學MB452兄話齋，maker把關得好，唔心軟私下放檔就自然唔會有私傳，可惜唔少maker見過鬼都仲唔怕黑

[Naphthalene(u#3293)]

二樓點只文不對題
好簡單咁問幾句：
(1)你知唔知我哋一直所講嘅私傳係絕大多數係一啲未完成嘅作品而唔係一啲某某論壇限定或者畀唔知幾多錢先有得玩嘅地圖或者係車？
(2)如果私傳呢個問題真係如閣下所言係因為一直申請唔到account而發生，咁請問閣下又點睇某一個一直唔係限定本壇出file嘅大studio一而再再而三三而幾咁鑊鑊新鮮咁洩漏一頭蘭、11米歐一龍等等自己嘅所謂心血甚至可能重計埋呢架都普flyer？

我唔係要強行為私傳班人講好說話。但係maker見過鬼唔怕黑重要甘心畀人出賣重要唔知係咪同一班人出賣(或者賣上賣)重要唔只個maker覺得無做錯所以business as usual繼續周圍R人做tester嗰下先得人驚。咩叫「惡魔之路可以由善意鋪砌而成」或者再簡單講「好心做壞事」呢啲咪好好嘅例子。
By saying this我無講過話一個人畀人強姦(呢個係周不時見到嘅比喻)係因為佢着得少布引人犯罪，但做多啲嘢保護自己就並不表示或者暗示受害人本身做錯嘢囉。

[FB8663@72(u#14831)]

略

1. 一係打中文一係打英文，咁樣難睇成咁冇人想知你想講咩
2. 有部份版友係大陸壇都會出作品，我唔明點解申請唔到香港論壇戶口就咩都玩唔到係咩意思，
全球咁多 OMSI 論壇咁多車試，每日試一部都分分鐘要一年，點解一定要申請香港壇先有嘢玩？

結論：學好打字，學好英文，睇多啲嘢擴闊眼界，會有更豐盛人生

[NP375(u#31509)]

又係呢啲 Maker 至上論。

我都係呢句，小弟跟 Winsome 呀 KT 呀 Naphthalene 兄佢地整左咁耐野，一次流出都未試過
（反而話要比真錢買 file 就試過，都唔知比咩反應 ）
咁到底係私傳問題上，作者一方係咪單純受害而無需反省呢？心知肚明

l略

我明白亦都同意一隻手拍唔響呢個point
坦白講，以我一個普通人角度去睇
作者比beta 人應該都係base on 一種信任
而係咪信得過就要睇玩家嘅行為而定

至於點解一次又一次被私傳檔案都繼續放beta/未完成作
我唔係整車嘅，又唔係當事人，好難作出判斷

個原post 係又玩家角度發出，難免有maker至上嘅感覺
但今次我想講嘅係私傳呢個問題
由你嘅角度，或者會覺得源頭都係作者把關不力
一隻手拍唔響，我明白你嘅意思

我感激有呢次討論嘅機會

[ATE12@KY7641(u#3173)]

又係呢啲 Maker 至上論。

我都係呢句，小弟跟 Winsome 呀 KT 呀 Naphthalene 兄佢地整左咁耐野，一次流出都未試過
（反而話要比真錢買 file 就試過，都唔知比咩反應 ）
咁到底係私傳問題上，作者一方係咪單純受害而無需反省呢？心知肚明

l略

我明白亦都同意一隻手拍唔響呢個point
坦白講，以我一個普通人角度去睇
作者比beta 人應該都係base on 一種信任
而係咪信得過就要睇玩家嘅行為而定

至於點解一次又一次被私傳檔案都繼續放beta/未完成作
我唔係整車嘅，又唔係當事人，好難作出判斷

個原post 係又玩家角度發出，難免有maker至上嘅感覺
但今次我想講嘅係私傳呢個問題


由你嘅角度，或者會覺得源頭都係作者把關不力
一隻手拍唔響，我明白你嘅意思

我感激有呢次討論嘅機會

冇一架車流出過揮手

定係冇人理過我?

[3M_K230UB(u#25337)]

又係呢啲 Maker 至上論。

我都係呢句，小弟跟 Winsome 呀 KT 呀 Naphthalene 兄佢地整左咁耐野，一次流出都未試過
（反而話要比真錢買 file 就試過，都唔知比咩反應 ）
咁到底係私傳問題上，作者一方係咪單純受害而無需反省呢？心知肚明

l略

我明白亦都同意一隻手拍唔響呢個point
坦白講，以我一個普通人角度去睇
作者比beta 人應該都係base on 一種信任
而係咪信得過就要睇玩家嘅行為而定

至於點解一次又一次被私傳檔案都繼續放beta/未完成作
我唔係整車嘅，又唔係當事人，好難作出判斷

個原post 係又玩家角度發出，難免有maker至上嘅感覺
但今次我想講嘅係私傳呢個問題


由你嘅角度，或者會覺得源頭都係作者把關不力
一隻手拍唔響，我明白你嘅意思

我感激有呢次討論嘅機會

冇一架車流出過揮手

定係冇人理過我?

咁所以話其實maker都有責任
係玩家既角度睇個人覺得你post下相/片已經好足夠
除非真係要搵人合作幫手/試野否則係唔應該比人既

二樓點只文不對題
好簡單咁問幾句：
(1)你知唔知我哋一直所講嘅私傳係絕大多數係一啲未完成嘅作品而唔係一啲某某論壇限定或者畀唔知幾多錢先有得玩嘅地圖或者係車？
(2)如果私傳呢個問題真係如閣下所言係因為一直申請唔到account而發生，咁請問閣下又點睇某一個一直唔係限定本壇出file嘅大studio一而再再而三三而幾咁鑊鑊新鮮咁洩漏一頭蘭、11米歐一龍等等自己嘅所謂心血甚至可能重計埋呢架都普flyer？

我唔係要強行為私傳班人講好說話。但係maker見過鬼唔怕黑重要甘心畀人出賣重要唔知係咪同一班人出賣(或者賣上賣)重要唔只個maker覺得無做錯所以business as usual繼續周圍R人做tester嗰下先得人驚。咩叫「惡魔之路可以由善意鋪砌而成」或者再簡單講「好心做壞事」呢啲咪好好嘅例子。
By saying this我無講過話一個人畀人強姦(呢個係周不時見到嘅比喻)係因為佢着得少布引人犯罪，但做多啲嘢保護自己就並不表示或者暗示受害人本身做錯嘢囉。

咁呢樣個maker自己都好應該反省下自己平時點識人
自己應該要認清楚果個人識你係真心當你老友定純粹搵著數(or even借你上位)
*自己受過比人踩上位既經驗

另外二樓唔該你唔識英文就唔好打英文啦,啲grammar根本就錯晒既

[NP375(u#31509)]

Hello
In hong kong, reason may be due to difficult apply mm2, omsi big forums account. If someone do not have hong kong big forums account, they almost play nothing (hong kong city and car). This may be chicken and egg problem. If they can apply big forums account more easily, they no need 私傳. Maker is only a small number of people, player is a large number of people. Most of player may not give contribution to mm2 and omsi, but we should not remove their playing right. 作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. Although small number of players may do something to hurt the forum and the maker, but we should not deny most other players (even china player) to access the forum. (I am a hong kong player). I think that most maker may want more players can play their city or car, but difficult account application may cause contradiction. I know that making city or car is very difficult and time consumption, most maker make them not for money. Kowloon west maker allow their objects free to use, then kowloon east city and 962 crazy city can use kowloon west object. I hope other makers to follow this method to reduce copyright argument problem. Kowloon west maker this method can make 百花齊放.
In youtube, you can see many mm2 and omsi hong kong video, but you do not have big forums account. You can only see other one to play, but you cannot play mm2, omsi hong kong city and car.
In the world, other country mm2 and omsi forums only need registration, but in hong kong most forums, we need registration reason. If someone like discussion, they can discuss. If someone do not like discussion, they can played as cdrom. 作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. So download is the registration reason that should not be the problem. But in hong kong, if download is registrator reason, you must not registrate successfully. I hope mm2 and omsi 百花齊放.
Thanks for your opinion
衷心多謝每一位喺OMSI同MM2 界付出過嘅作者

Reason for application is required in order to keep the forum environment in a good condition. I am not saying other forum that u mentioned has no standards but instead I am going to say administrator has an option to do that. The reason why we need copyright is because it is a basic right to protect the authors. Authors can choose whether share their work to others or not, but that doesn’t mean they lost their copyrights of their work. If you are talking about share to reduce copyright argues, for this post, you are not even on the right track.
Similarly, author can choose who to share with, if you don't understand, let me take an example, you won’t give red pockets to everyone on the streets, right?
“作者擺咁多心機時間就係為咗大家玩得開心. So download is the registration reason that should not be the problem.” That’s the biggest problem that i found, according to dictionary.com, forum is for discussion of questions of public interest, not for downloading stuffs. If the aim of having an account is just for downloading files, that doesn't fit the idea of forum. The rest of your opinion is basically translating my post into English, and I don't know the aim of doing it lol.

I don't have good English writing skills, but I choose to use English as you are using it.
I hope you could read what I wrote
Thanks for your opinion and good luck

NP375

[HT2693(u#14004)]

其實, 如果無人流出任何車
就唔會助長到呢種風氣
一嚟嗰啲人問極都無會無癮
二嚟手上根本無嘢作誘因去引人犯罪
所以tester本身就係其中一個最需要對架車負責任嘅人
問題係, 流出有咩好處?
可以同人曬自己有乜乜乜? 飲頭啖湯? (喂都未煲好)
根本係急功近利嘅短視心態
架車都未整好, 玩落都唔會有完成版好
一個唔好彩作者因此放棄製作
大家都輸 (不過香港人最鍾意人無我有嘅感覺, 哪怕係未完成版)
再加上呢種風氣一但漫延開去
只會造成更多作者放棄, 同少咗新project (絕對唔希望見到咁)
MM2同我地講, 仲可以令成個game玩完 (更加唔希望見到咁)
所以, 到底私傳有咩意義?
係一時嘅快樂? 定係一世無嘢玩?
Maker固然有責任, 但最大責任係落喺Tester身上
在此奉勸咁多位有打算, 同已經私傳嘅玩家/Tester/...
私傳或者帶嚟一時快樂
但你放棄緊嘅係更多, 同更多人嘅快樂
都係嗰句,
唔好咁笨啦, 快啲收手啦, 或者打1834633搵人幫你啦

[PJ.(u#21046)]

好簡單
正如你比人偷嘢 , 一定係你自己唔小心先比個賊有機可乘
你啲嘢放得好 , 收得密實 , 點會咁易比人偷 ~

至於收錢呢樣嘢就見仁見智啦
你覺得值咪買囉 , 你覺得唔值既咪唔好買囉

[HT2693(u#14004)]

至於收錢呢樣嘢就見仁見智啦
你覺得值咪買囉 , 你覺得唔值既咪唔好買囉

唔係,
佢應該係講有人想用錢向製作者買架未完成嘅車
唔通真係咁等唔切
要玩部未整好嘅車?
唔通覺得製作者用1日整好架車,
之後一直放喺度托?

[愛麗絲公主(u#21350)]

唔通覺得製作者用1日整好架車,
之後一直放喺度托?

或許... 成日見D人留言問都係話(看幅圖好似完成度幾高, 仲差d咩, 幾時出得)